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![[*]](./images/reflections/default_icon.gif) posted on 6.24.2007 at 04:11 PM |
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Proof from the Bible that God is a man!
Genesis 18:1-2 "And The Lord appeared unto him in the plains of Mamre: and he sat in the tent door in the heat of the day; And
he lift up his eyes and looked, and lo, three men stood by him: and when he saw them, he ran to meet them from the tent door, and
bowed himself toward the ground,"
Genesis 17:1-3 "And When Abram was ninety years old and nine, the Lord appeared to Abram, and said unto him, I am the Almighty
God; walk before me and be thou perfect."
Genesis 32: 24,30 "And Jacob was left alone; and there wrestled a man with him until the breaking of the day.......And Jacob
called the name of the place Peniel: for I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved."
Exodus 24:9,10 "Then went up Moses, and Aaron, Nadab, and Abihu, and seventy of the elders of Israel: And they saw the God of
Israel: and there was under his feet as it were a paved work of a sapphire stone, and as it were the body of heaven in his
clearness."
Exodus 6:2,3 "And God spake unto Moses, and said unto him, I am the Lord: And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto
Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name Jehovah was I not known to them."
Exodus 33:11 "And the Lord spake unto Moses face to face, as a man speaketh unto his friend."
Joshua 5:13-15 "And it came to pass when Joshua was by Jericho, that he lifted up his eyes and looked, and , behold, there stood a
man over against him with his sword drawn in his hand and Joshua went unto him, and said unto him, Arth thou for us, or for our adversaries?
And he said, Nay; but as captain of the host of the Lord am I now come. And Joshua fell on hid face to the earth and did worship,
and said unto him, What saith my lord unto his servant? And the captain of the Lord's host sais unto Joshua, Loose thy shoe
from off they foot; for the place whereon thou standest is holy. And Joshua did so."
Now how do we know that this was God in the case of Joshua! God told Joshua the same thing he told Moses in Exodus 3:5 "And he said, Draw not
nigh hither; put off thy shoes from off thy feet, for the place whereon thou standest is holy ground."
Also when the man refers to himself as "captain of the host of the lord" shows that he is God. One example of "the host of the Lord is in Isa1:24
"Therefore saith the Lord, the Lord of hosts, the mighty One of Israel, Ah, I will ease me of mine adversaries, and avenge me of mine
enemies:"
What do you think
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Homegirl 50
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| posted on 6.24.2007 at 09:20 PM |
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I think God can present himself in any form.
When other people make mistakes, we seek justice.
When we make mistakes, we seek compassion.
The lesson is to give to others what you seek.
--Maura Cullen
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wisdom
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| posted on 6.24.2007 at 09:45 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Homegirl 50
I think God can present himself in any form. |
God has to be something. We must get out of the thinking that God is a immaterial nothing. The power of God can manifest in any form but God Himself
has to be something!
If God made us in his IMAGE and LIKENESS then he would have to be a man.
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Homegirl 50
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| posted on 6.25.2007 at 12:44 AM |
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Yes, but what does he have to be a man. I don't think we can comprehend what he is. Why must He be something we can understand?
When other people make mistakes, we seek justice.
When we make mistakes, we seek compassion.
The lesson is to give to others what you seek.
--Maura Cullen
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| posted on 6.25.2007 at 05:11 AM |
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Leaving aside God does not exist at all in my view, I believe the bible was wriiten from a man's perspective, and has many passages that imply women
are not equal to men.
It starts of course with Eve who took the apple from the tree, and made men (Adam) look bad.
But the most clear proof is seen in one of the ten commandments:
Exodus 20:17
“Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his
ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's.”
This text is clearly ment for a man, as it puts women on the same level as slaves and animals, i.e. property.
Numerous passages in the bible imply women are not equal to men, and therefore my only conclusion can be God was ment to be an (alpha) male figure,
thus, Wisdom is correct. The quotes he put down above also clearly demonstrate this fact.
Seeing women as property is also clealry demonstrated in the following quotes:
Judges 14:1-3
“And Samson went down to Timnath, and saw a woman in Timnath of the daughters of the Philistines. And he came up, and told his father and his mother,
and said, I have seen a woman in Timnath of the daughters of the Philistines: now therefore get her for me to wife. Then his father and his mother
said unto him, Is there never a woman among the daughters of thy brethren, or among all my people, that thou goest to take a wife of the uncircumcised
Philistines? And Samson said unto his father, Get her for me; for she pleaseth me well.”
Ruth 4:10
“Moreover Ruth the Moabitess, the wife of Mahlon, have I purchased to be my wife…”
Hosea 3:2
“So I bought her to me for fifteen pieces of silver, and for an homer of barley, and an half homer of barley”
You can even buy a woman with foreskins!:
1 Samuel 18:27
“Wherefore David arose and went, he and his men, and slew of the Philistines two hundred men; and David brought their foreskins, and they gave them in
full tale to the king, that he might be the king's son in law. And Saul gave him Michal his daughter to wife”
NEW testament:
Colossians 3:18-19
“Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as it is fit in the Lord. Husbands, love your wives, and be not bitter against them”
1 Corinthians 11:3
“But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God”
If God was a woman wouldn't the bible be entirely different? I probably would have less objections against this book if it were so.
God was ment to be a male, the bible clearly says so.
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MsLoving
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| posted on 6.25.2007 at 05:55 AM |
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I agree with Brotha Wisdom also, God is a Man, even though he has the power and authority to do whatever, He is what He is ..
I would be afraid to get that one twisted.. 
Women were created for Men from the rib of a man, she therefore is suppose to be submissive and cater to the man. Wow this sure got lost in the
shuffle. anyway that is another topic..
again .. I agree with Brotha Wisdom
No army can strike effectively if its forces are divided and fighting
against themselves.
Kwame Nkrumah
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deep_thinker
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| posted on 6.25.2007 at 12:27 PM |
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The Christian God is male, but if you say that "God" is male only then you restrict "God" to male functionality only. "God" cannot be the life
bearer because that is a function assigned to the female/feminine. "God" cannot be the parent with unlimited love and nurturing because those are
qualities ascribed to the female/feminine.
So if you are ok with the idea that "God" can only perform male/masculine functions then the Christian God is the right one for you but by limiting
the actions and abilities and form of "God" you automatically erase "God's" omnipotence and omnipresence, making whatever deity you are praying
to less powerful than the true ideal of "God".
If you say that "God" does have male and female qualities (masculine and feminine attributes) then you are saying that "God" is both male and
female or can be both male and female and thus the question should be asked why there are two separate and distinct genders in Creation if we were
created in "God's" image and "God" is both masculine and feminine, both right and left brained, endowed with both logical and emotional
reasonings, etc. Wouldnt it then make sense for "God" to have created only one gender also endowed with all of "God's" qualities and attributes
if we were truly made in "God's" image?
If the wise are not calm their manner is not perfect; if no calm comes in battle the army gets no rest. If there is no calm between feasts the master
and the mistress of the house cannot enjoy themselves and if there is no calm in the temple God abandons it.
Righteous Without Shame.
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waterboxer
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| posted on 6.25.2007 at 12:33 PM |
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Why is a MUSLIM using the Bible to prove that God is a Man?
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wisdom
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| posted on 6.25.2007 at 05:15 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally posted by deep_thinker
The Christian God is male, but if you say that "God" is male only then you restrict "God" to male functionality only. "God" cannot be the life
bearer because that is a function assigned to the female/feminine. "God" cannot be the parent with unlimited love and nurturing because those are
qualities ascribed to the female/feminine.
So if you are ok with the idea that "God" can only perform male/masculine functions then the Christian God is the right one for you but by limiting
the actions and abilities and form of "God" you automatically erase "God's" omnipotence and omnipresence, making whatever deity you are praying
to less powerful than the true ideal of "God".
If you say that "God" does have male and female qualities (masculine and feminine attributes) then you are saying that "God" is both male and
female or can be both male and female and thus the question should be asked why there are two separate and distinct genders in Creation if we were
created in "God's" image and "God" is both masculine and feminine, both right and left brained, endowed with both logical and emotional
reasonings, etc. Wouldnt it then make sense for "God" to have created only one gender also endowed with all of "God's" qualities and attributes
if we were truly made in "God's" image? |
 I feel you Sistah. When we say that God is a man we do not exclude
the Black woman. So I agree with you whole hardedly Sistah.
I just want to get the Spookism from out of our peoples minds and there is no Scriptures in the Bible that I could use to show anyone giving reverence
to a Female Goddess!
So I'm with you Sistah! We are on the same page! I know I'm not as knowledgeable as you are on the Khemetic Religions but from what I know of it ,
there is no different then what I was trying to say!
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wisdom
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| posted on 6.25.2007 at 05:19 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally posted by waterboxer
Why is a MUSLIM using the Bible to prove that God is a Man? |
Brotha you as a Muslim can't be closed minded like the Christians. It is silly to believe that the Quran is the only "Word" of God. There where
many Prophets who came with many Scriptures and we in the Nation of Islam believe in ALL of Gods Prophets and the Scriptures they brought to the
people.
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waterboxer
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| posted on 6.25.2007 at 05:26 PM |
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I never said such a thing. I asked a question that you did not answer. Also, the other scriptures you speak of must be accordance with Quran. Lastly
for the life of me please explain how the NOI condemns a Book as being tampered with but still use this book to justify religious positions?
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wisdom
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| posted on 6.25.2007 at 05:28 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Lived
Leaving aside God does not exist at all in my view, I believe the bible was wriiten from a man's perspective, and has many passages that imply women
are not equal to men.
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No that is just the white mans interpretation of it! Just like how the Devils went to Eygpt and said that the Eygptians served "many" Gods then
turn around and teach that the "Trinity" is 3 Gods in one!
The white mans Gods are all one but the Eygptians Gods are many!
To a spiritually blind man the Bible and Quran is a book that puts women in an inferior position but to a Spiritually wise man with understanding
knows that there is no man with out his women and can interpret the Scriptures in Truth!
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wisdom
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| posted on 6.25.2007 at 05:34 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally posted by waterboxer
I never said such a thing. I asked a question that you did not answer. Also, the other scriptures you speak of must be accordance with Quran. Lastly
for the life of me please explain how the NOI condemns a Book as being tampered with but still use this book to justify religious positions?
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The water has been tampered with, the air we breath has been tampered with and the food we eat has been tampered with. Do you not Breath the air, do
you not eat, do you not drink water!
There is truth in the Bible if understood. The Bible is written in symbolic/poetic language that is used to trick us. We believe in the TRUTH of the
Bible.
| Quote: | | Also, the other scriptures you speak of must be in accordance with the Quran. |
What Scripture did I use that's not in accordance with the Quran.
What question did you ask that I didn't answer.
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wisdom
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| posted on 6.25.2007 at 05:45 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Homegirl 50
Yes, but what does he have to be a man. I don't think we can comprehend what he is. Why must He be something we can understand?
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This is the main problem with Christian doctrine and this is why the Krackas keep us decieved. If nobody understands God, nobody has ever seen Him
then why should we listen to the Krackas and Their Christianity.
They don't even know what color Jesus was, they don't even know who authered the Gospels!!!! But the Krackas can tell you Jesus walked on water.
If you don't know the most obvious things about the man and nothing was written down when he was alive how are you gone tell me he rose from the dead
and he healed the sick!
Who's teaching them what they know! Why is what they say about God more authoritative then what the Eygptians say. If nobody understands! The
Eygptians build a society that is far more superior then anything this Kracka has ever built even til today so why don't we use their knowledge over
the Krackas.
I mean....Hell, nobody has ever seen Him nor do anybody understand Him, so why not go with the Eygptians!
How can a man teach something that he doesn't know or understand. Somebody has to know and understand to teach us the truth. If nobody knows or
understands God how can I be held accountable if I don't "believe" and have to spend an eternity in hell.
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wisdom
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| posted on 6.25.2007 at 05:46 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally posted by MsLoving
I agree with Brotha Wisdom also, God is a Man, even though he has the power and authority to do whatever, He is what He is ..
I would be afraid to get that one twisted..
Women were created for Men from the rib of a man, she therefore is suppose to be submissive and cater to the man. Wow this sure got lost in the
shuffle. anyway that is another topic..
again .. I agree with Brotha Wisdom |
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